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Info-Hams Digest            Wed,  1 Jun 94       Volume 94 : Issue  604

Today's Topics:
                    "The Rhythm of the Code" tape
                           440 in So. Cal.
                            anyone there ?
        Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 31 May
                         Got card from HH2PK!
                    Ham Radio few problem (2 msgs)
                                IDing
                   NEEDED: FCC Compliant FM Xmitter
                             TRANSVERTERS

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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 08:13:19
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com![e-mail]
Subject: "The Rhythm of the Code" tape
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Starkgraf) writes:
>Path: indirect.com!news.sprintlink.net!demon!uknet!EU.net!uunet!ncrgw2.ncr.com!ncrhub2!tdbunews!nsc32!wps
>From: [e-mail] (Bill Starkgraf)
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Subject: Re: "The Rhythm of the Code" tape
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>Date: 31 May 94 14:15:59 GMT
>References: <[e-mail]>
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>I won a copy at our club raffle after our last meeting.  My two daughters,
>who do not anything to do with Ham radio or even morse code, like the tape.
>Maybe now they won't be so harsh on code.

>Bill

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>| El Segundo, CA                          [phone] x5754    |
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>| Call: KD6UQB                            Simi Settlers ARC       |
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I have given away this tape on my Ham Radio & More show 4 or 5 times.
I have had many people call and ask for the phone number and find
this tape of interest to them. It is definitely laughed at by many "old time"
cw users, but it can certainly help many.
73,
Len, KB7LPW

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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:59:20 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!brunix!pstc3.pstc.brown.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 440 in So. Cal.
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Robb Topolski KJ6YT) writes:

> Well I was agreeing with the sentiment more than the statement.  It's not
> as simple as you think.  The band is ours.  We want to use it,
> efficiently and fairly.  In fact, we'll cooperate with a fair, open
> coordination effort eagerly.

Well, its unfortunate, but long ago when 440mhz was an unknown place
and everyone wanted to be on 2 meters, people who wanted to set up
closed repeaters were told they had to go to 440mhz. So, they had to
spend alot more money to set up their systems, pioneering the way
for others to follow.

Now that equipment manufacturers have decided to drop prices and
make 440mhz equipment available at inexpensive costs you expect the
440mhz band to change? Sorry, I don't think so.


> There are also far too many "paper" repeaters.

Clearly, paper repeaters should not be coordinated. Around here, if
a frequency is "coordinated" but you listen to it for a month and hear
no activity, you have squatters rights to plant your butt on that
frequency, and if you document everything, the fact that a repeater was
"coordinated" on that frequency beforehand is immaterial. The 440mhz band
in NE is just about full, and we routinely have to worry about this
happening should one of our systems be taken down due to equipment failure,
etc.

MD

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Date: 1 Jun 94 16:49:51 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: anyone there ?
To: [e-mail]

i haven't received any of the ham digests from ucsd.edu in many days.
is there a problem ? if someone sees this please let me know if the
digests are still alive. please email...as i'm not receiveing anything
from ucsd.edu  thanks.

dan egan

[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 23:35:32 MDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs![e-mail]
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 31 May
To: [e-mail]

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY

                                  31 MAY, 1994

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 31 MAY, 1994
-------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: Electrons at greater than 2 MeV reached high fluence levels today.
      Background x-ray levels were also below class A1.0 levels.

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 151, 05/31/94
10.7 FLUX=069.1  90-AVG=083        SSN=000      BKI=4554 3344  BAI=029
BGND-XRAY=A1.0     FLU1=4.0E+05  FLU10=1.2E+04  PKI=4655 3343  PAI=032
  BOU-DEV=042,092,075,049,025,028,052,048   DEV-AVG=051 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= B4.2   @ 2031UT    XRAY-MIN= A1.0   @ 2249UT   XRAY-AVG= A2.8
NEUTN-MAX= +002%  @ 0015UT   NEUTN-MIN= -002%  @ 1210UT  NEUTN-AVG= -0.2%
  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 0125UT     PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 0010UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55345NT @ 0057UT   BOUTF-MIN=55287NT @ 2001UT  BOUTF-AVG=55312NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+077,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+141NT@ 1855UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-070NT@ 2355UT  G6-AVG=+124,+030,-025
 FLUXFCST=STD:070,070,070;SESC:070,070,070 BAI/PAI-FCST=030,030,030/035,035,030
    KFCST=4445 5444 4445 5444  27DAY-AP=023,032   27DAY-KP=4543 4433 5554 4444
 WARNINGS=*GSTRM;*AURMIDWRN
   ALERTS=**MINSTRM
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 30 MAY 94 is not available.
      The Full Kp Indices for 30 MAY 94 are: 5o 7- 5o 5-   4o 4o 4- 4+
      The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 30 MAY 94 are:  46 115  52  36  28  28  21  32
      Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 31 MAY is: 1.1E+09


SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------

             Solar activity was very low. The only event for the past
       few days was an uncorrelated B4 xray burst at 31/2030UT. The
       sun remains spotless.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       very low.

            The geomagnetic field has been at unsettled to minor storm.
       High latitude stations saw periods of major storming. Activity
       is most likely due to a well positioned coronal hole. Energetic
       electron flux (GT 2 MeV) ranged from normal to high levels over
       the past 24 hours.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field is
       expected to be unsettled to minor storm for the entire forecast
       period. High latitude stations should expect periods of major,
       possibly severe, storming during local nighttime.

            Event probabilities 01 jun-03 jun

                             Class M    01/01/01
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     01/01/01
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 01 jun-03 jun

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                20/20/20
                        Minor Storm           30/30/30
                        Major-Severe Storm    25/25/25

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                15/15/15
                        Minor Storm           30/30/25
                        Major-Severe Storm    35/35/30

            HF propagation conditions were below-normal over most
       regions (particularly middle to polar latitude paths).
       Degradation was strongest on transauroral circuits where
       absorption, fading, multipathing, and associated sporadic-E
       have been fairly prevalent.  Spread-F has also been reported in
       the polar and auroral regions.  Similar conditions are expected
       to persist over the next 48 to 72 hours, through 03 June
       inclusive.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 31/2400Z MAY
------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7728  S07W27  322                    PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 01 JUNE TO 03 JUNE
NMBR LAT    LO
NONE


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 31 MAY, 1994
--------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP
NONE


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 31 MAY, 1994
------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 31/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
83   S46E51 S70E47 S29W75 S29W75  296  EXT   NEG   101 10830A
84   N40E14 N35E10 N43E09 N43E09  283  ISO   POS   000 10830A


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
NO EVENTS OBSERVED.


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
Uncorrellated: 0   0   0     0   0   0   0   0    000  ( 0.0)

 Total Events: 000 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
                            NO EVENTS OBSERVED.

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:58:49 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ub!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: Got card from HH2PK!
To: [e-mail]

Scott Richard Rosenfeld ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am happy to say that, against my best judgment, I sent a card out to
: Haiti in March and got a reply yesterday!

They get a cheaper mail rate this way... It's like in the 'old days' here
in the US when an unsealed envelope could be sent at a reduced mail rate.
The cut corners are the equivalent of an unsealed envelope.

73/Bill/N6GHG
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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:12:41 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!brunix!pstc3.pstc.brown.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Ham Radio few problem
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Roger Bly) writes:

> Agreed, These laws and the FCC say the repeater
> owner has the right to deny access to any station by DPL, turning the
> machine off, etc. and that makes perfect sense.  None of this is a problem
> until you only have 3 open repeaters.

Maybe you ought to look at yourself as a reason why people want closed
repeaters in the first place.


> You can't put up another open 440
> repeater that the community demands because all the closed repeaters are
> "coordinated".

So? Move up to 1.2ghz.


>  The greater community is being damaged by the closed repeater
> owners and by the coordinating bodies.

Opinion, not fact. Around here, closed repeaters contribute heavily to
the amateur radio community, offering sanctuaries away from the increasing
number of CB transplants that are destroying 2 meters.


> There is no doubt that as the
> ranks swell, more and more pressure will be put on the closed repeaters to
> open or make way for open machine.  To speed the process up, class action
> suits against the owners and coordinating bodies are being considered.

I highly encourage you to litigate. I can't wait to see the courts laugh in
your face.


> I like the "closed means no coordination" policy several people mentioned.
> We should all put pressure on the coordinating bodies to adopt this.

If I applied for and was denied coordination simply because my machine
was going to be "closed", you can bet the coordinating body would be
hearing from an attorney. Since the FCC recognizes that repeaters can
be closed, a coordinating body's denial of coordination on the basis of
"open" or "closed" status is illegal and discriminatory.


> Closed repeaters don't fit the spirit and intent of amateur radio.

That's your opinion. And, with people like you in the hobby, I'm surprised
that ALL the machines in SoCal aren't closed.


> What do we do when the bands shrink, the ranks grow, and the number of
> closed repeaters increases?  Do we just give up on the hobby?  Do we operate
> only on the 1 or 2 frequencies where we can afford the dues?

Ah yes, now we see all. Translated: "I don't want to have to pay to use
someone else's equipment." Yup, the good old welfare-state mentality once
again. "HEY! I'm BREATHING, aren't I?!? Its my RIGHT!"

Maybe you should move up to 1.2ghz or 2.4ghz. Lots of spectrum up there
for open repeaters, and spectrum that we're in danger of loosing due to
underutilization.

What? Oh, equipment for those bands is too expensive, or you can't buy
an appliance radio for those bands at the local HRO? Well, gee, isn't
that just too bad. Sounds like the same issue closed repeater owners faced
years ago when they wanted to set up a closed repeater and were told they'd
have to do it on 440mhz.


MD

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Date: 1 Jun 1994 15:35:04 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: Ham Radio few problem
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(System Operator) wrote:

> > Closed repeaters don't fit the spirit and intent of amateur radio.
>
> That's your opinion. And, with people like you in the hobby, I'm surprised
> that ALL the machines in SoCal aren't closed.

Exactly! There's nothing wrong with a closed repeater. Lets face it, if
people would grow up and learn some on-the-air manners (ie, not abusing
autopatch, listening, etc.) then the need for closed repeaters would
dwindle to nothing.

> > What do we do when the bands shrink, the ranks grow, and the number of
> > closed repeaters increases?  Do we just give up on the hobby?  Do we operate
> > only on the 1 or 2 frequencies where we can afford the dues?
>
> Ah yes, now we see all. Translated: "I don't want to have to pay to use
> someone else's equipment." Yup, the good old welfare-state mentality once
> again. "HEY! I'm BREATHING, aren't I?!? Its my RIGHT!"

There are ways other than monetary to support a repeater but I think you've
gotten it pretty much right.

--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== [e-mail], Tel. [phone] Fax. [phone]
== The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.

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Date: 1 Jun 1994 10:09:39 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: IDing
To: [e-mail]

[B & M about typical amateur language snipped for brevity...]

% We're not cops.  We're not military.  We don't need to use
                             ^^^^^^^^

% 10 codes(some amateurs do this), Q codes, CW codes when speaking
% phone.
%

        I think I'll start using Z-codes on 2m and see what sort of reaction I
get.....:-) :-) :-)


        73!

        T.M.K. -- kj5gu

[e-mail]
---
Internet: [e-mail]
UUCP:     crash!pro-haven!phantom

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Date: 1 Jun 1994 15:31:20 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!uclink.berkeley.edu![e-mail]
Subject: NEEDED: FCC Compliant FM Xmitter
To: [e-mail]

I am trying to get a community station off of the ground in rural Vermont,
and finding the FCC regulations to be a serious stumbling block. Rather
than pay several thousand for a new transmitter, or pay several thousand
to get a homebrew transmimtter cleared by the FCC, I'd like to find someone
(or some station) with an old low power (50 watts or so) transmitter that
they would be willing to sell or give away (tax-deductible).

If you have such an item, or have any good ideas about where I could find
such a thing, please send me mail at:

[e-mail]

Thanks,
Andy

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Date: 1 Jun 94 10:41:07 -0230
From: newsflash.concordia.ca!nstn.ns.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!leif![e-mail]
Subject: TRANSVERTERS
To: [e-mail]

In article <2shqit$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (James J Martin) writes:
>
> Ten Tec 6 meter transverter kit (1208) for up to 5 Watts in on
> 20 meters will give you 8 Watts out on 6.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> kit $95.00
> assembled $159.00
>
> There has been a delay in shipping.
> --
> JIM MARTIN             W8AC
> [e-mail]


Does the xvtr really use the 20m IF?  Most use 28 Mc/s so more of the
band can be covered, ie 28-30 -> 50-52.  Also, is the TT xvtr typical
of TT design and quality?

Joe VO1NA

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Date: 1 Jun 1994 14:03:27 GMT
From: tymix.Tymnet.COM!niagara![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2seid0$[e-mail]>, <2sfhir$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>.Tymn
Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Roger Buffington) writes:
>That's right Dick, OB.  99% of the amateurs in Southern California are the
>have nots, and the good old boys who have assigned themselves pretty much
>all of 440 are the haves.  And I'm for throwing them out...you have that
>quite right.

Those "good old boys" were properly and legitimately coordinated when a lot
of the sabre-rattling crowd were still in diapers.  How long before the next
Revolution Of The Have Nots throws out =your= "coordinated" repeaters?!?  How
do you protect =your= repeaters from the next batch of frequency grabbers?
--
Dick Flanagan, W6OLD                             w6old@n6qmy.#nocal.ca.usa.na
[e-mail]                                 CIS:73672,751 GEnie:FLANAGAN

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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:22:50 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!brunix!pstc3![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2sfhir$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2si4ff$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.

In article <2si4ff$[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (Dick Flanagan) writes:

|> Those "good old boys" were properly and legitimately coordinated when a lot
|> of the sabre-rattling crowd were still in diapers.  How long before the next
|> Revolution Of The Have Nots throws out =your= "coordinated" repeaters?!?  How
|> do you protect =your= repeaters from the next batch of frequency grabbers?

Yes, my sentiments exactly. What is the next thing they're not going to like
about your repeater? Oh, you don't have free autopatch access! Well, you
should be decoordinated for someone who is willing to give us free long-
distance autopatch privs!

Gimme, gimme, gimme. The welfare-state mentality permeates the hobby.
Sickening.

MD
--
-- Michael P. Deignan
-- Amalgamated Baby Seal Poachers Union, Local 101
-- "Get 'The Club'... Endorsed by Baby Seal poachers everywhere..."

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Date: 1 Jun 1994 15:41:22 GMT
From: cyberpunk.ucsd.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Six meter HT

I rather like my Motorola PT-300.  5 watts out on 6m.  The batteries are
getting a little hard to find, and the antenna is kinda big, but it sure
has been dependable!  I bought it for $15 at the swapmeet.
    - Brian

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Date: 1 Jun 1994 07:02:06 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!news.uh.edu!uuneo.neosoft.com!sugar.NeoSoft.COM![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2seid0$[e-mail]>, <2sfhir$[e-mail]>, <2sh2lq$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.

In article <2sh2lq$[e-mail]>,
Robb Topolski KJ6YT <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Well I was agreeing with the sentiment more than the statement.  It's not
>as simple as you think.  The band is ours.  We want to use it,
>efficiently and fairly.  In fact, we'll cooperate with a fair, open
>coordination effort eagerly.

But what about the "closed" systems that have many users?  They do exist.  You
can't simply say "throw out all closed systems".  It just doesn't work.  There
may well be a need for reform in SoCal, but the band belongs to the owners of
closed systems just as it belongs to those who want every system to be open.

As a frequency coordinator, you must look at both sides of the issue.  Many of
the closed systems have been operating for long periods of time without causing
problems.  A coordinator just can't say "Well, we've changed our policies, and
you have to go".  They'll get their butts sued off.

The "paper" radios should be decoordinated.  There's no coordinator worth his
salt who will disagree with this, but you can't expect any coordinator to just
see one side of the issue.

Contrary to some operators' beliefs, an open repeater is not "more worthy" of
a frequency...in the FCC's eyes or anyone elses.  A good coordinator must
balance the needs of the existing systems with the desires of new hams who
want to put on repeaters.  It's not a black and white issue.

--
   Jim Reese, WD5IYT     |     "Real Texans don't let the truth get in
[e-mail] |          the way of a good story."

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